NEW YORK TIMES
WASHINGTON — At least five justices appeared poised to expand the scope of the Second Amendment’s protection of the right to bear arms on Tuesday, judging from comments at an unusually intense Supreme Court argument.
By its conclusion, it seemed plain that the court would extend a 2008 decision that first identified an individual right to own guns to strike down Chicago’s gun control law, widely considered the most restrictive in the nation.
While such a ruling would represent an enormous symbolic victory for supporters of gun rights, its short-term practical impact would almost certainly be limited. Just how much strength the Second Amendment has in places that regulate but do not ban guns outright will be worked out in additional cases.
The new case, McDonald v. Chicago, No. 08-1521, was a sequel to the 2008 decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, which placed limits on what the federal government may do to regulate guns. The issue before the court in the new case was whether the Second Amendment also applied to state and local laws. It appeared that at least the justices in the Heller majority would say yes without reservation because they considered the rights protected in the Second Amendment as basic as those in other provisions of the Bill of Rights.
Justice John Paul Stevens, who wrote a dissent in Heller, suggested Tuesday that important questions remain unresolved. “I’m asking you what is the scope of the right to own a gun?” he said. “Is it just the right to have it at home, or is the right to parade around the streets with guns?”
Heller itself struck down parts of the gun control law in the District of Columbia, then the strictest in the nation. But the majority opinion, by Justice Antonin Scalia, suggested that all sorts of restrictions on gun ownership might pass Second Amendment muster.
Justice Stephen G. Breyer, who also wrote a dissent in Heller, peppered the lawyers with questions about how the court might apply the Second Amendment to the states in a limited way. The Second Amendment says, “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.” Drawing on the first clause of the amendment, Justice Breyer said that a right tied to state militias might be worthy of protection, while the right to bear arms “to shoot burglars” might not be.
The lead plaintiff in the case, Otis McDonald, has said he wants to keep a handgun in his home for protection from drug gangs. Justice Breyer asked Alan Gura, a lawyer for residents of Chicago challenging its gun control law, whether the city should remain free to ban guns if it could show that hundreds of lives would be saved. Mr. Gura said no. Justice Scalia objected to the inquiry. A constitutional right, he said, cannot be overcome because it may have negative consequences.
James A. Feldman, a lawyer for the City of Chicago, urged the justices to treat the Second Amendment differently from its cousins because it concerns a lethal product. “Firearms, unlike anything else that is the subject of a provision of the Bill of Rights, are designed to injure and kill,” Mr. Feldman said.
Monday, March 8, 2010
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I don't think we should have our guns taken away for somthing that other people do we need our guns so that we can shoot animals like cows or deer for the beef and venisen. for many people that they cant buy it at a store.
ReplyDeleteTo those who aren't fimilar with the Second Amendment: "A well regualated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." The most common misconception of our Second Amendment is it pertains strictly to militias and not individuals who have the right to bear arms. When you first read the Second Amendment, you may come to the conclusion that it is the right of all people to own weapons. However, those who think guns are a danger to our country try going too far into depth in this amendment, when it clearly states the right to bear arms is a right "of the people." The phrase "of the people" is used quite often in the other rights of the Constitution and these amendments are usually accepted by all. Other critics say our Founders created this amendment to allow the people to hunt. If this is true, it seems quite odd it would end up being our Founding Father's second idea on their checklist of creating a new country. The truth is it was meant to combat a completely corrupt government from taking power if one ever did arise. I think my point makes more sense because the Founders had just got done dealing with a horrible government and they were trying to find a means of preventing that from happening again.
ReplyDeleteBut don't guns create violence and hurt people? Yes, they do create violence, and yes, they do hurt people. But the real question is- why? Is it to cause further chaos? Or is it stop the chaos and allow peace to prosper once again? I'm going with the second one. While somebody with a gun may start a shooting, another person with the RIGHT to own a gun can put an end to that shooting faster than they could if they didn't have a gun. You could take away all the guns in the entire country, but would that honestly stop violence? If someone really wanted to kill another person, I highly doubt they would say,"Oh shoot, I don't have a gun. Oh well, I guess I won't try to murder this person." People don't take something like killing someone lightly. Without a gun, a person would still have access to things like knives and other common items which could be used as an assault weapon. Say somebody was going on a killing spree and there was a gun ban. Now they would still get with murder and be able to kill more people in a longer amount of time because there is no one else with a gun to retaliate. Sure, the police might come, but who knows how much damage could be done by the time they get there. Sometimes it can take as long as 20 minutes for them to arrive. Even though guns might seem like a symbol of war and destruction, they can be a symbol of peace when used appropriatly.
N.Falk
ReplyDeleteI think that people should be allowed to have guns. People don't need to carry them everywhere they go with them and if someone has done crime before than just make it so that they can't have guns. A lot of people use guns for hunting and other things if people that don't have guns and are going to kill someone they will use something else to kill someone with.
I think every one should be able to have guns because its our right to own them. but lots of shootings have been happening lately,even in Minnesota.but i am a hunter so i don't want my guns took away. but city's like Minneapolis and st.Paul should not have any or new york, LA there is no sense to have it there besides robbery but now you home security now which does a great job so if they are that worried they should go with that but not take the hunters guns away because we haven't tried to shoot anyone.
ReplyDeleteI think that it should be a persons choice if they want to have a gun or not. The Supreme Court should not have the athority to decide if we can or can't have guns. I do believe however that there should be stricter gun laws in the bigger cities because of the violence.
ReplyDeleteCitizens of the United States have the right to own their firearms. With this right they should be responsible enough to treat it the right way. Therefore, the government sohuld not punish the whole country by taking away guns because of the people who abuse the right. The government should make and pass some new laws in order to stop robbery and shootings. This way the country could have guns and use them for good purposes instead of not having firearms at all.
ReplyDeleteI do agree with Hayden but what kind of laws are we talking about. I don't think that they shouldn't punish everybody just because of some people who don't know how to use firearms for good, but how are we supposed to pass laws on robberies and shootings. They can't deny someone the right to purchase a firearm
ReplyDeleteOk what's wrong with the laws we have now against guns? There is no reason to become more strict about them or to take them away. I mean if a person has a felony for armed robbery or whatever like that then it's just common sense that maybe that person shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun. Just because people live in big cities doesn't mean they don't hunt, I have a grandpa, and an uncle living in the cities who have hunted all their lives and
ReplyDeleteI have met a group of people from L.A. who were on their way up to Canada bearhunting with THEIR guns. No matter if you take the guns away or not there is still always going to be gang violence and murder. Hunting is my life, not a hobby but my life and it is for many others too so the thought of our guns being taken away just because of people's crimes is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Just lock up the criminals who don't think they need to follow laws and be done with it.
I hate this classic argument of 2nd amendment rights...My thoughts are that their should be higher enforcement on individuals making mistakes with guns and citizens with concealed pistol licences and higher enforcement with machine guns... Does an American citizen really need to have a machine gun. They should ban residential use of high rate of fire guns. It's not the hunters that are getting this argument brought up time after time its the people making stupid shootings in the inner-cities. Yes, all weapons have to have proper certification but I think that the purchase of a weapon should be much harder to get......
ReplyDeleteSupporters of the using guns use Second Amendment’s protection of the right to bear arms as a reason for individuals having guns, but I don't think it's a good reason because we are in different situation from the period that the amendment was enacted. I think by making the process that individuals getting guns harder or even impossible, a lot of crimes would be reduced.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Drew and Ross on this. I don't think it would be fair for only the people in bigger cities like L.A. to get their guns taken away. If they're going to take them away from some people, they should take them away from everybody. Only taking them away from some people would cause huge problems. Just because there is more shootings and stuff in bigger cities doesn't mean that everybody should get their guns taken away. I'm sure that there are quite a few people that live in big cities that really enjoy hunting. Taking their guns because they live in a big city wouldn't be right.
ReplyDeleteI think the idea of making it harder to purchase a gun wouldn't be a bad thing. It might help with the gun issues a little bit, but i couldn't see it helping much. There are people out there that are way too smart and would find ways to buy guns anyways. If someone wants to kill another person with a gun, they're going to find a way to get one.
Taking away machine guns from just random people in cities is very reasonable. There really isn't any reason for someone to have a machine gun. I just don't think that taking away the normal hunting rifles would be a very good idea. It would make so many people mad, and I'm just assuming that there would be way too many animals, like deer for example. Everybody should just get to keep their guns!
I think everybody should have the right to own a firearm. They shouldnt be trying to take away all guns just because some indaviduals made a bad choice. Some gun laws however should be passed to make sure the people buying the guns are more likly to use them properly.
ReplyDeletei also think that people should be aloud to buy guns. just only the ones who have not done something wrong and stuff. than we would have less crime and other things happening.
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