Thursday, September 23, 2010

Despite Setback, Gay Rights Move Forward

NEW YORK TIMES
Efforts that could lead to a reversal of the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy that prohibits openly gay soldiers from serving in the military may have stalled in the United States Senate, but the legal fight is advancing in the federal courts along with other important gay rights litigation.

In addition to the military policy, two laws restricting gay rights — the federal Defense of Marriage Act and the California ban on same-sex marriage — have been declared unconstitutional by federal judges in recent months.

The three recent decisions on gay rights issues suggest that federal judges are increasingly willing to strike down what they see as antigay bias embodied in legislation, said Erwin Chemerinsky, the law school dean at the University of California, Irvine. “Federal judges are no longer persuaded that a moral condemnation of homosexuality justifies government discrimination,” he said.

The path ahead for the litigation in all three cases is long, difficult to predict and risky, legal experts say. The ultimate question is whether a majority of justices on the United States Supreme Court will agree with the district court judges’ interpretation of the court’s own rulings in cases like Lawrence v. Texas, a case that struck down a state sodomy law.

In the 6-to-3 majority opinion in Lawrence, Justice Anthony M. Kennedy wrote of due process rights associated with “autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression and certain intimate conduct.”

While Justice Kennedy argued that the decision did “not involve whether the government must give formal recognition to any relationship that homosexual persons seek to enter,” Justice Antonin Scalia angrily predicted in dissent that the majority opinion would, in fact, justify homosexual marriage.

To Richard Epstein, a libertarian legal scholar at New York University, the logic of the Kennedy opinion in Lawrence inexorably leads to a grant of rights against discrimination. “There’s just no way, once you start down that road, that you’re going to get off of it,” he said. “If you can’t criminalize it, you can’t discriminate against it.”

While saying that he is “no seer,” he predicted that if the three cases made their way to the Supreme Court, Justice Kennedy would ultimately write majority opinions that upheld the three recent district court opinions.

The district court judges are reflecting an increasingly obvious shift in public opinion, said Andrew Koppelman, a professor of law at Northwestern University. “The gay rights movement has been a spectacularly successful movement for cultural change,” he said. “A few decades ago these people were cultural pariahs. It was taken for granted that gay people are mentally ill, contaminated and unclean. Now the cultural valence has flipped — it is that view of gay people which is itself stigmatized.”

As life-tenured appointees, judges can look beyond politics to posterity, Professor Koppelman said. “Right now it seems like a good bet that if you are friendly to gay rights claims,” he said, “future generations will honor you for that.”

President Obama has had an effect as well, said Jennifer Pizer, director of the national marriage project of the Western regional office of Lamba Legal, a public interest legal group for gay issues. Activists have criticized the president for the Justice Department’s defense of the federal laws being challenged, but he has also urged the repeal of laws that discriminate against gay men and lesbians.

“Having the president repeatedly say these rules discriminate and cause harm — so the discussion shifts to choice of processes for removing them rather than justifying them — seems to have changed the discussion,” she said.

On that, Ms. Pizer and Tony Perkins, the head of the Family Research Council, agree, though he deplores the trend. “I think he’s creating an environment in which the courts feel comfortable pushing the envelope with these decisions,” Mr. Perkins said.

28 comments:

  1. I think that anyone should be allowed into the military. Openly gay or not. I say that because you can never have too many people in the military! If someone wants to be in it, they should be able too no questions asked! I am against gay marriages, but i think they should still have just as much right into the military as anyone else! Thats what I think!

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  2. i think its good that they are joining the military cuz it means more peopld. but i also believe they should keep it to themselves and not be open about it. thats all i think...

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  3. I agree with both comments. Anybody should be able to join the military, but if the person is gay I think they should keep it to themselves because if they said they were gay that could cause prombles for some people. It is good though that more people want to join gay or not. We could always use more people! Even though I disagree with people being gay they shouldn't be judged just because they want to join the military and help our country.

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  5. I agree with the don't and don't tell policy. No one should be denied the right to join the military and serve their country. I say as long as they keep it to themselves, and they give their best effort in whatever branch of the military they enlist in. They should have same equality of all other military men and women.

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  6. I think that the don't ask don't tell wasn't really discrimanating, I think it was more of a message of we don't want to know, so don't tell us. And I agree with banning gay marriage as unconstitional, it mixes church with state. It should be the church's and the pastor's decision if they want to allow a gay marriage in their church, not the goverment.

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  7. I think the people whether are gay or not, it is their privacy and choice. It should be separated with their willing to join the military, though I don't encourage gay marriage personally. People may think it breaks the morality, but we can hardly change their mind or stop all of them. What if we build up the education about it, then let people know, let people choose. They can choose who to love, and what they want to be. We can also make some policies about it, such as healthy or cleaning problems. Because we can't deny that there ARE gays on the world, and some of them want to contribute to their country, though it is not normal.

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  8. i think that it is good that gays would want to sever in the military. i agree with lyn_zee about the don't ask don't tell policy. i mean if they didn't ask you(and they can't)you dont need to say to the offices that they are gay. I also agree with lyn_zee about that it should be up to the church,church commity, and the priest to decide if they would be aloud to get married in that specific church.

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  9. We always need more people in the military. It shouldn't matter if they are gay or what their gender and race is. Anyone should be allowed to fight for one's country. Anyone who joins the military should be treated equally. If some people have a problem with it, then they will have to deal with it.

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  10. I agree anybody of any gender or race should be able to be in the military. Gay or not people are all the same and shouldnt be treated any different than anyone else. Everyone is different in there own ways and we all just have to learn to live with it. Nobody here has the right to tell anyone who they have to be or how they have to live their lives. Some people may not like that. Some people are gay but just because there gay doesnt mean they cant be in the military. If they wanna fight for our country and help our country out then they should be treated the same as all the other straight men and women who want to fight for our country also.

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  11. I think that gays should be allowed to openly serve in the military or they should keep the don't ask don't tell policy. I think this because i believe that you cant help if you were born gay or straight. I also believe that they should be able to because you can't help whith what you are attracted to and thats the way they were born. ALso they in the Decleration of Independence it says all man are created equally and how are they treating man equally if they won't allow gays to serve in military.

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  12. People are different in all kinds of thing. Race, appearance, characteristic etc. Some people feel love with same gender. Only difference is they are minorities. So, I think there shouldn't be any discrimination on gays. Personally, I think we don't have any rights that we can make others not to live in the way they are. Moreover, there can't be any restriction on joining the military. It's totally depends on the people who want it and I disagree that gays can affect others. First, I don't find any problems on gay. Second, gay is not wrong, it's just not a common thing for us. So, I'm glad that gay rights move forward despite of any sterotypes on them.

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  13. I think this prohybition is totally unfair and a clear discrimination act to the gay community, especially in the 21st century! The right thing to do is to allow gay people in the military, because after all they're individuals, just like everybody else. Their sexual choice should not affect the way society threats them. We live in a country where everyone has the right to be free with their personal choices as long it doesn't hurt anyone, and we are proud for that, so the government should re-think about this and decide for allowing them to sign for the military, and the gay marriage too! People should have the right to be themselves! Just because a person is gay doesn't mean he is not a citizen, and as one, it's totally fair that they have the same rights as us all.

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  14. Anyone should be allowed to serve in the military. Gay or not. Just because someone is gay doesn't mean they aren't like anyone else. Everyone is looking for love... some people just find it in the same gender. I agree with the "don't ask don't tell" policy because some sodiers might have an issue with a gay person in the military, but that doesn't mean they should not be allowed to serve our country.
    I totally agree with lyn_zee, banning gay marriage is good because it totally goes against seperation of church and state.

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  15. I don't know why they don't live gay people the way they want. I don't support gay marriage, but why don't they allow them to live however they want, they are not hurting anybody... And if you dont like them, why don't you go to another place? Is completely unfair for them.

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  16. Gays should be allowed in the military without having to hide anything. It wasn't their choice to be gay, so they shouldn't have to hide it. People should not be offended by their lifestyle choice. If someone is willing to sacrifice their lives in the military, they should be allowed whether they are gay or straight.

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  17. The dont ask dont tell policy is good for the military. Gays should keep their choice to themselves especially in the military because unity among comrades is so important. Anyone in the military who is anti-gay shouldnt have to change their views to work with someone either. The dont ask dont tell policy keeps everyone content.

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  18. I agree with ana,youbin and tayler you can't say just because they love somebody from the same sex that they are wrong or can not go to millitary like homosexuells! you are born like that and you can't change it. for example when you're hetero you can't change that and i think you have to accept other ways of love. when you're hetero you can live like that but the government should not make laws against other loveways.

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  19. Recently, bans on gay marriages have been ruled unconstitutional by federal courts. When the constitution was written, nobody was openly gay. If people were openly gay back then, they would have been outcasts or possibly even killed. People back then were more proper, gay tendencies would not have been discussed. Gay rights were not an issue back then, and if they were, those who were openly gay probably would not have been granted any freedom. They probably would have been treated just like the African Americans were treated or as mentally disturbed individuals. Physically, we were not created to be gay. It is not the natural course of life. I don’t think gay rights should move forward. Going back to old fashioned morales would prevent a lot of disease and heartache. It would also save state and federal government money which would be a plus in today’s economy.

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  20. My thoughts of gays in the military is to let them be in the military. They may in the future help win many wars when we need people most. I think gays should be able to have the same rights as everyone else. Our country believes everyone is equal this is no different. I personally do not favor gay marriage and it should not be legal. I feel it is not right that men and women of the same gender take part in marriage. Marriage to me is a sacrament that should be only celebrated with opposite genders.

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  21. I think the that it shouldn't matter if you are gay and want to enlist into the miliatary it shouldn't matter.The dont ask dont tell policy is also a go way to go then there may not be any issuesbeing caused that way either. Everybody is created equal and they should not be judged as seperates in this case.

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