NEW YORK TIMES
By KATHARINE Q. SEELYE
ATLANTA — The Civil War, the most wrenching and bloody episode in American history, may not seem like much of a cause for celebration, especially in the South.
And yet, as the 150th anniversary of the four-year conflict gets under way, some groups in the old Confederacy are planning at least a certain amount of hoopla, chiefly around the glory days of secession, when 11 states declared their sovereignty under a banner of states’ rights and broke from the union.
The events include a “secession ball” in the former slave port of Charleston (“a joyous night of music, dancing, food and drink,” says the invitation), which will be replicated on a smaller scale in other cities. A parade is being planned in Montgomery, Ala., along with a mock swearing-in of Jefferson Davis as president of the Confederacy.
In addition, the Sons of Confederate Veterans and some of its local chapters are preparing various television commercials that they hope to show next year. “All we wanted was to be left alone to govern ourselves,” says one ad from the group’s Georgia Division.
That some — even now — are honoring secession, with barely a nod to the role of slavery, underscores how divisive a topic the war remains, with Americans continuing to debate its causes, its meaning and its legacy.
“We in the South, who have been kicked around for an awfully long time and are accused of being racist, we would just like the truth to be known,” said Michael Givens, commander-in-chief of the Sons, explaining the reason for the television ads. While there were many causes of the war, he said, “our people were only fighting to protect themselves from an invasion and for their independence.”
Not everyone is on board with this program, of course. The N.A.A.C.P., for one, plans to protest some of these events, saying that celebrating secession is tantamount to celebrating slavery. “I can only imagine what kind of celebration they would have if they had won,” said Lonnie Randolph, president of the South Carolina N.A.A.C.P.
He said he was dumbfounded by “all of this glamorization and sanitization of what really happened.” When Southerners refer to states’ rights, he said, “they are really talking about their idea of one right — to buy and sell human beings.”
The secession events are among hundreds if not thousands that will unfold over the next four years in honor of the Civil War’s sesquicentennial. From Fort Sumter to Appomattox, historic sites across the South, and some in the North, plan to highlight various aspects of America’s deadliest conflict — and perhaps its least resolved.
Most historians say it is impossible to carve out slavery from the context of the war. As James W. Loewen, a liberal sociologist and author of “Lies My Teacher Told Me,” put it: “The North did not go to war to end slavery, it went to war to hold the country together and only gradually did it become anti-slavery — but slavery is why the South seceded.”
In its secession papers, Mississippi, for example, called slavery “the greatest material interest of the world” and said that attempts to stop it would undermine “commerce and civilization.”
Who would in their right mind want to celebrate secession? I wouldn't want to because secession was the very reason why the Civil War started! Then you have people making commercials about secession and they hope the commercials will air the next year. Well they're wrong that's all I know. If I was to celebrate secesion, I would have to move to another country because celebrating secession is just plain stupid!
ReplyDeleteI agree with Kory! This is just ridiculous!! Seriously, who celebrates about the Civil War and Secession!? People should know that those commericials are most likely NOT going to be on the TV. Some people are just stupid. I think they should have been in our history class to learn about it all over again..you know, to refresh their memory of how stupid it was.
ReplyDeletethis is not something should be celebrating about. I mean I see that they are standing up for their old way of life, but slavery was extremely bad and shouldn't be celebrated!
ReplyDeleteI agree with these comments. I don't think half of our country should be celebrating the Civil War and Secession. Many people died because of it, and they are celebrating it and acting like it was a good thing. This situation is not something anyone should be celebrating.
ReplyDeleteWhat’s wrong with having a different view? Is that not one of our right’s? If you don’t believe in this celebration then don’t celebrate it! Secession is part of the Southern history. Why shouldn’t we remember secession, slavery, the holocaust and all of the many other things that have happened in history? If we don’t remember, we will forget what as happened and it might happen again. If you think about it what the difference between slavery and pro sports is; the team has your rights they decide when you play or if you get traded. The only difference was that the players get paid well.
ReplyDeleteWell, I think people should remember the history and learn from it. But all of us know that it was a painful history for blacks and the families that were detroyed during that time.I don't think they should "celebrate". In China, we have some dates that are used to remind us about the history, but no one celebrates. Because we know that it is painful to some other people. There are still many blacks in America, why don't the people who celebrate think about what they feel? Also, we are in a united nation now, why do they celebrate Secession? It's just like a remarried couple, the husband say to his wife: Let's celebrate the date that we got divorced.
ReplyDeleteI have the feeling that I will be repeating some things here, but these people have no idea what they are getting themselves into. Celebrating Secession is like saying that you don't care that all those people died to make our country the way it is today. Not only that. but there will probably be outrage from the black community, I mean if I was black I'm, positive that I'd be angry that someone is celebrating this. To make this into a metaphore I'd say they're about to take a handfull of firecrackers, light them in their hands, and just sit there as they explode. The idiocy of some people just amazes me!
ReplyDeleteI think that celebrating secession and having slavery and all that happened during the Civil War to the blacks and everyone is just reallyyyyy dumb! Why would you want celebrate something that was bad for someone else just because it benefitted you(slavery) in the first place?? And just because it's part of their history doesn't mean they have to CELEBRATE it!! wowwww...some peope are just dumbb! jusst sayiing.
ReplyDeleteI dislike thatthe southern states are planning a ball and parade to celebrate the "glory days of secession". I think celebrating secession will bring baack arguements between the South and the North, which was how the Civil War started. I dislike that people want to celebrate the days in which there was slavery, fighting, and many deaths among the country. I would also have to agree with northerners that celebrating secession is celebrating slavery, and I do not think slavery was ever a good thing!
ReplyDeleteI agree with colleenc1, I think people should remember the civil war and the secession but I don't think they should be celebrating it. Yeah they should be able to have the dates to remind us but not to celebrate.. I also feel for the blacks i am sure its not easy hearing that people want to celebrate secession when they were the ones who had to slave and make the United States the way it is today. Everyone should just be happy we all have what we have today instead of taking advantage of it.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Robert and Courtney if you start to celebrate secession again the argument is going to start again. The Civil War was very bloody and I think that if the United States went to war with its self right now they we would be so vulnerable that the war in Afghan that we would be destroyed. There are many different ways that they could have approached this without having to bring up secession and the Civil War.
ReplyDeleteIf they want to celebrate it, then let them. The south believed seccession was right at that time. Just because they are celebrating and remembering the Civil War now, doesn't mean that is will start again. Not that I think seccession was right, but I think that they should be allowed to have their own opinion.
ReplyDeleteHonestly i think that its not that big of a problem. Slavery and Seccesion was part of their history and it may not have made our country the way it is today. Just because you believe in something doesnt make you wrong. All of you are sounding like hittler saying that their wrong and they should be like punished.
ReplyDeleteI think the seccession is kind of an interesting thing, it definately made a mark in history, and tied knots in our goverment that shouldn't of ever been loose. It proved so much. They are leaving slavery out of it, it's not like their saying slavery was right, their celebrating the making of our nation, their right to put in their two cents.
ReplyDeleteI agree with those that are against the celebration of secession. I'm okay with remembering secession. It's part of our history that we can't forget, but to me the decision of secession by the south was a mistake. A mistake that we should not be celebrating. No matter what the circumstances are.
ReplyDeleteI think that they sould be able to celebrate if they want to, I dont believe it is the right thing to do, but let them think what they want. I highly doubt that there will be a war that rises up from this, and if there is that is just pethetic!
ReplyDeletethe south feels that secession was a big part of their history and they think it would be like how we celebrate gaining independace from the british. The people who want to celebrate secession think of how they were independant not about the people who died and the war. it shouldn't be about celbrating the war but just how they were able to be independant and not having to litsen to the national goverment they could make their own laws and right to fallow that were probably more suited for them.
ReplyDeleteI really don't understand why the South wants to celbreate secessions. All the Civil war was about was because of slavery.
ReplyDeleteSo why do they want to "celebrate" this after America is united?
That would only cause more arguments and problems. And in my opinion they have to consider how the blacks are going to feel. Isn't that mean for them? Well, I think it is and I personally oppose this "celebrating".
I don't think the South should celebrate secession. There was an argument of us forgetting what happened in the past. This may be true but we shouldn't celebrate a past event that couldn've possibly devided our country in two. The idea is wrong, and it shouldn't be allowed.
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