Hundreds of Minnesotans from the two sides of the gay marriage issue jammed a Capitol hearing room Friday, and both passionately assured lawmakers that God and justice are on their side. They came to argue for and against a constitutional amendment to define marriage as between one man and one woman.
"I'm here to pray for the marriage amendment because family is the bedrock of society. If it falls apart, so will the society," said Janis Hackman, a retired teacher from Centerville, Minn., who came to watch.
"Why isn't my daughter's family worthy of support?" countered Bruce Ause, a Red Wing resident who has a lesbian daughter, before the proceedings started.
After hours of testimony, a panel of lawmakers debated -- and approved -- the amendment.
The near-perennial fight is newly charged this year as Republicans control the Legislature, giving backers little doubt that the amendment will be before the voters in 2012. It takes approval from a simple majority of lawmakers to get an amendment on the ballot. That certainty only heightened the intensity.
"This is without doubt an emotional issue," said Republican Sen. Scott Newman, R-Hutchinson. He began the three-hour hearing by warning the activist crowd that security officials were present and prepared to act. The crowd let their emotions spill but kept it peaceful.
"Same-sex marriage redefines marriage, and same-sex marriage redefines parenthood," said Jennifer Roback Morse, who works at an outreach arm of the National Organization for Marriage.
"I'm at a loss for words how to appeal to your humanity," Rosemount resident Jeff Wilfahrt told lawmakers. His gay son, Andrew, was a soldier killed in Afghanistan two months ago. "Minnesota's better than that."
Opponents may have time on their side. Over the last decade, amid deep contentious debate, the nation's mood has changed on gay marriage. Where once the majority of backers were against it, now there is a clear split.
"I'm a self-identified Republican, and I'm straight," Madeline Koch told the committee when she testified against the amendment. The 24-year-old who works at a Fortune 500 company said her generation believes gay marriage is a "human right."
She was one of only a handful of the 24 who testified to win a roar of approval from the large crowds watching the hearing. "Public opinion is moving quickly toward full equality," she said.
Her testimony had little bearing on the outcome; the committee passed the measure, 8-4, on partisan lines.
Supporters, nearly all of them members of the clergy, argued that same-sex marriage violates tenets of the Torah, the Bible and the Qur'an and that it will irreparably harm families and children. Such marriages run counter to "the intent of Almighty God," said the Rev. Tom Parrish, pastor of Hope Lutheran Church in Minneapolis. "I've sat at the bedside of many [dying] gay men. I deeply love them, but I deeply disagree with them."
The Rev. Bob Battle, pastor of Berean Church in the shadow of the Capitol, also said gay marriage runs counter to the Adam and Eve creation story in Genesis. A longtime politically conservative civil rights leader, he added that, "I don't think this has anything to do with civil rights."
A House committee is scheduled to hear the bill Monday at 12:30. Chief Senate sponsor Warren Limmer, R-Maple Grove, said he expects the measure will get a vote by the full Senate, possibly as soon as next week. "We should give this to the public to decide," Limmer said. "This is the time for Minnesota to have this public dialogue."
Marriage is defined in the Bible as a union between one man and one woman. "Marriage" is a Biblical term, so why use a Biblical term for something that is not Biblical?
ReplyDeleteI completly agree with Hannah. Our country was based off Christian belifs and even if you don't believe in God, you can still realize how wrong gay marriage is. Think of all the diseases that are caused because of gays. Not only that but if man were supposed to be with man and woman were supposed to be with woman then shouldn't they be able to concieve together? Clearly marriage is meant to be a union between one MAN and one WOMAN. I have gay friends and relatives and I do not approve of it at all but I still treat them as humans but there is a point where you need to draw the line and I think that is at marriage. Gays should not be allowed to be wed to one another.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Hannah.Also, freedom or rights are not just based on people's opinions or preferance, there is right or wrong, the things that are wrong are not supposed to be approved. Gay people can't have children or have generation, what's the point of getting married? Even thought they do get married, what would their kids think to be brought up in a gay family? This is neither right nor good.
ReplyDeleteAnother thing is that most supporters are younger kids who don't have rights to vote, which means that they are not mature enough to decide the directions of their lives. As they grow older, they will consider more about their family and generations and make changes. Gay marriage doesn't make sense at all.
There are some bible verses that are against homosexual. One of them is: You shall not lie with a male as with a women. It is an abomination. (Lev 19:6)
Oops. The bible verse is actually in Leviticus 18:22. I typed it wrong earlier...
ReplyDeleteI think that whatever people want to do is their own right. If they want to marry another man or woman then they should be able to. A man marrying another man doesn't effect anybody else. Its just between those two people. Why not let people be happy? If being gay makes someone happy, then they should be able to do that Just because you're not into it doesn't mean anything. We don't have the right to control how other people should feel or believe.
ReplyDeleteThis is one heck of a current event! But, I do not beleive in gay marriage. It goes againts the Bible and I agree with Kristi when she said Christain or not you should still relize it's wrong. It's that simple.
ReplyDeleteI beleive gay marrige should be allowed. Marrige is a vow to love and cheerish eachother for the rest of your life. So why should these gays not be allowed to marry eachother. Yes the bible says marrige should be between a man and a women but that was how long ago? This is centuries later people have different views than they did back then. The bible says you should love all people and things right? So why cant to gay people love eachother and get married. I dont think gays wake up one day and go "well I think im going to marry my same-sex today"! No they are just born with it and some hide it but why hide it theres nothing to be ashamed of it who you are. Oh and LAND OF THE FREE? No America isnt not if two gay people cant even marry eachother.
ReplyDeleteI believe on basing my life on the Bible and following God. You all know what the Bible says about marriage(thank you Hannah,Kristi,and Colleen). I think I have answers for the questions asked by Krista and Brittany. To Krista "why not let people be happy?" You can compare being gay to being a murderer,both equaly wrong. If murdering makes someone happy, should we let them be happy? To Brittany "yes the bible says marriage should be between a man and a woman but that was how long ago?" A couple thousand years but that is irelevent because the Bible is God's word. It doesnt go out of style. God is better than that. The Bible also says we should love people, NOT everything they do. America would be a horrible(but "free") place if everone did what they wanted. There would be no law.
ReplyDeleteI personally agree that gay people should be able to do what they want. It shouldn't be anyone else's decision but their own and they shouldn't be judged by their decision either. If they really love someone of the same gender that is their choice and no one else's!I guess I can somewhat understand why it bothers people because of what the bible says but what I don't understand is why people let it bother them that much when it has nothing to do with them? Let people live their lives and you live yours. Overall, I think it's completely unfair to judge people by this and they should be able to live their lives they want to.
ReplyDeleteMarriage is for procreation. Two men and two women can clearly not accomplish that. :)
ReplyDeleteI don't understand the point of a gay marriage. Yes our country is a free country. But there is always a line that shouldn't be crossed; this, I feel is that line that should not be crossed. If this is allowed, where will it end? What will people come up with next?
I totally agree with Mariam and Brittany! I don't understand why it shouldn't be allowed to marry if you are gay. It is their life and their choice. I think when the people love each other and are happy and want to prove their love with marriage it shouldn't be others people choice. If woman and man or man and man love each other, for me that is the same love and you should tolerate their love and should let them marry like everybody else. We are in the 21st century and i can't believe that people still don't accept gays! I just hope that one day they are treated the same way because it's just the way how they were born and diseases don't come just from gays like some people think!
ReplyDeleteWhen gays marry it doesn't effect you and it is not your choice!
I agree with Brittany. Marrige is a vow of love. Yes the bible says you shall not lie with a man, but, all sins are forgiven. If god really didn't want men to love men and women to love women he would of stopped it. Because "everything is in his plan" if you "christians" ever read the bible. EVERYTHING that happens to you is supposed to be in his plan, weather you love women or men, it was in his plan. And I believe that the Govt. should NOT be involved with this. It should be the pastor's choice if he wants to marry a gay couple. I see nothing wrong with it. I see it as love is love no matter who it's with.
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