By Bill Mears
CNN
It's an issue that does not get more basic, yet the complexity surrounding the legal, social, and political implications of expanding that right to gays and lesbians is now squarely before the Supreme Court.
The justices launch an epic public dialogue on Tuesday when they hear oral arguments in the first of two appeals to state and federal laws restricting same-sex marriage. The second round will be on Wednesday.
However, the real challenge and drama will come when they go behind closed doors later this week and vote as a group -- at least preliminarily -- on questions presented in cases with landmark potential.
The political, social, and legal stakes of this long-simmering debate have once again put the high court at the center of national attention, a contentious encore to its summer ruling upholding the massive health care reform law championed by President Barack Obama. The outcome in this one could have profound influence on how America defines family. The court is likely to take its time and not act before June.
On Tuesday, the justices were set to hear arguments concerning the appeal of a federal judge's decision that struck down down California's Proposition 8, which defines marriage as between a man and a woman. The overriding legal question is whether the 14th Amendment guarantee of "equal protection" prevents states from defining marriage as California has.
There are an estimated 120,000 legally married same-sex couples in the United States. It is legal in nine states: Washington, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire, Maryland, and New York, along with the District of Columbia. Another nine states have civil union or strong domestic partnership laws, that stop short of marriage.
A new national poll indicates increasing public awareness around the issue and stronger overall support for same-sex marriage specifically. According to the CNN/ORC International survey, 57% say they have a family member or close friend who is gay or lesbian, up 12 points from 2007. Also, the number of Americans who support same-sex marriage has risen by almost the same amount over the same period - from 40% in 2007 to 53%.
In its separate argument on Wednesday, the justices will tackle the federal Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA), a 1996 law defining marriage for federal purposes as between a man and a woman. That means legally married gay and lesbian couples are denied federal benefits and privileges -- things like tax breaks and survivor benefits.
Backers of DOMA and Proposition 8 say it should be up to the public to decide, not the courts. "Our most fundamental right in this country is the right to vote and the right to participate in the political process, " said Austin Nimocks of the Alliance Defending Freedom, a Christian advocacy group. "We don't need the Supreme Court to take that right away from Americans of good faith on both sides of this issue and impose its judicial solution," Nimocks said. "We need to leave this debate to the democratic process, which is working."
Tuesday, March 26, 2013
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I've said this once, I'll say it a thousand times: if you don't like gay marriage, don't get gay married. Rights should not have to be debated- they should just BE. It's not anyone's place to tell a straight person who they can and cannot love, why should it be their place to tell a homosexual person who they are allowed to be with? Love is love. When it comes right down to it, the only proper thing to do is allow marriage for all people no matter what their orientation may be. Anything other than this is discrimination. It's about time we stop this fear of our ever shifting world nonsense and make things right for a change.
ReplyDeleteShelby H, Hr 3
Yes I agree, Who's life is it hurting anyway. I think that if it's messing you're life up so bad that you can't live with it anymore than you need to see a doctor or something because something is wrong.
DeleteMatthew Hodek
Per.3
I think that people that want to marry gay or lesbian, then they should be able to. What is it hurting? Is it bad because it looks bad to the public. Is it messing up our lives so bad that we have to get rid of it coompletely, or can we give it to the people that want it.
ReplyDeleteMatthew Hodek
Per. 3
i say its about time that they do something about it even if it was just a little thing it still does a big job for the people who do like that kinda stuff. I am not dissing anyone and actullei knew a lesbian cople and they where a kind cople, and they are still a cuple, and they are happy, but I still don't agree with the whole marrige thing though.
ReplyDeletehaley armstrong
per. 3
In the beginning the Creator made them male and female. For this reason, a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh (Matt 19:4-5)
ReplyDeleteI do not believe that homosexuality is right in any way. "Since you were born that way, you can't change" is a popular belief by many. First, there is no scientific evidence that anyone is born gay. It's a myth that has been repeated so often that people believe it. Second, thousands of people who were once gay have experienced significant changes in their attractions and behavior. Change is possible.Homosexuality is not innate. It is not a genetic trait, and cannot replicate the love between a man and a woman which God did create. Homosexual behavior is promoted in the media, yet it fails to note the health risks associated with the lifestyle. It is not my place to discriminate or judge. I can stand by my opinions while at the same time showing compassion to others and being a friend to those in need.
Andrea Warkentin- Period 2
YES! I AGREE! The statistics are astounding: In 2011; 13,402 people who had 'heterosexual' contact contracted HIV, while 30,573 people who had 'homosexual' contact contracted HIV (http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/topics/surveillance/basic.htm). Besides it being life threatening, its based on the FALSE assumption that homosexuals are born the way they are. There is NO scientific evidence supporting this theory at all! I just think that it is immoral and wrong for our society to stretch our sexual desires and lusts to the same sex.
DeleteHow far does it have to go before everyone in our country feels this bitter freedom? We will continue to convince ourselves of what WE think the real meaning of what "right" is, cause we have lost all the sense of the word.
Jonas Fisher, Period 2.
What about all the health affects? Jonas pointed out some very good facts about how homosexuals can contract HIV a lot easier that heterosexuals. When we pick a side, we tend to lean toward it and not think about the adverse side affects. And what you said about “Religion should not affect how political decisions are made” ? In 1814 the Star Spangled Banner was written by Francis Scott Key. “In God We Trust” was used in it. It is our national anthem. We still sing it today. “One nation, under God”, is in the Pledge of Alligiance. We still say it today. Our history was greatly affected by this “so called Religion.” Why can’t it affect the present? American history demonstrates repeatedly that the nation was founded on Christian principles and its founding fathers wished to acknowledge that fact all over Washington D.C. buildings, in official documents, and historical speeches. So don’t tell me that Religion shouldn’t affect how political decisions are made.
ReplyDeleteAndrea Warkentin: Period 2
Let's talk about the health effects. Jonas said, "In 2011; 13,402 people who had 'heterosexual' contact contracted HIV, while 30,573 people who had 'homosexual' contact contracted HIV". 30,573. That sounds like a big number, but it isn't. "During 2012, an estimated 226,160 new cases of lung cancer were expected to be diagnosed". (http://www.lung.org/lung-disease/lung-cancer/resources/facts-figures/lung-cancer-fact-sheet.html)
Delete226,160 contracted cases of lung cancer. Smoking tobacco is legal for purchase and use in the United States for people over the age of 18. Cigarrettes are a known benefactor for lung cancer. Smoking causes about 90% of lung cancer deaths in men and almost 80% in women. That's a lot of death for something that is completely legal. In 2009, an estimated 33,808 people were killed in the US in traffic related incidents. That's just people driving and getting in an accident. Talk about something people do every day. The "health effects" of having a homosexual relationship are insignificant. Why should they make a difference on the legality of same sex marriage? Now let's move on to religion. Like Joseph said below, the United States has something called Separation of Church and State. Though the US was founded upon christian beliefs, and was deeply effected by the religious views of early leaders, it is in the first amendment that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." Because christian belief is that homosexuals are immoral and wrong, should not effect the legality of same sex marriage, just as any religions belief should not.
I completely agree, sexually transmitted diseases will always be around during our lifetime and I'm sure homosexual people realize the risk just like every straight person when they decide to put themselves in that situation. Every time anyone (gay or straight) does that, the risk is there. But should someone be anything but what they are in order to please society? No. If a straight person believes that homosexuality and homosexuals are bad people and in the wrong, they have the right to believe that. But if they want to restrict people of a right that would improve their lives greatly just because it is in their opinion wrong, they should learn to simply not pay attention to it. It's really none of their buissiness and doesn't at all affect them.
DeleteI think it's wrong for them to take away their rights. So I definitely agree with Dylan. They are human beings too? It's just like back in the day when they wouldn't let blacks have rights. I'm pretty sure if that's wrong today than so is taking away gay marriage rights.
ReplyDeleteDavid Hoang per. 3
Marriage is supposed to be about love. If one person loves another person they should be able to be married. I feel extremely strong about this and I know many gay people. I havnt met a gay person yet who hasn't showed signs of being gay ever since they were little. Some say that there's no "scientific proof" that people are born gay but I highly doubt that a person would choose to be looked down on because of their sexual preferences. Many gay teenagers have committed suicide because of what they go through and what people say about them and do to them. They would not choose to be bullied and scrutinized if that wasn't who they were! They are American citizens and diserve every right that straight people get... Including all of the benefits of being a spouse. It's already legal in 9 states and I think it's time for the rest of the country to catch up.
ReplyDeleteCailee Mesler
3rd hour
During discussion in class today, we brought up that everyone should be treated equal regardless of their beliefs or religion. If we let terrorists live in the U.S. and openly admit that they want us dead, why shouldn't we allow same sex marriage? Separation of Church and State means religion shouldn't affect the government. I don't think people should use their beliefs like being Christian, etc. to try control others lives. Using the amount of sexual diseases between heterosexuals and homosexuals is just ridiculous. You obviously don't have much to back yourself up if all you can go off is religion and STD's, both of which are irrelevant to the situation. If it doesn't affect you, why do you care? I agree with Shelby, if you don't like gay marriage, then don't do it.
ReplyDeleteJoseph Runnels
Hour 3
I believe that our government should not have the power to decide who can and can't get married. First of all because it is completly unfair!!! I don't understand how someone could look a happy couple in the eyes and tell them they can't get married because of the partner they choose to fall in love with. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I think marriage is all about LOVE, and it shouldn't matter what sex. I don't think that the government can take away anyones right to get married just because others people don't believe that's the way God wanted it to be. People need to start facing the new world and what it's becoming. I don't want gay teens to have to think something is wrong with them and turn to commiting suicide. I've seen gay people together before as I'm sure most people have. What's the big differce from seeing them together and having them be legally married? The world is changing and we have to be open minded and change with it, otherwise nothing will ever get better.
ReplyDelete*Sydney Mosher* 2nd Hour
We live in a country that has faced down all types of oppression. How can we not accept those that are our neighbors? Our friends? Our family? Why do we so vigorously resist change that has happened over and over that we all agree has been for the better? No one color is better than another- we know that. No one gender is better than the other- we know that. No one- NO ONE- has given me a single legitimate reason as to why their religion should have sway over another person's life. Love is love. This is something we faced with interracial marriages that used to be so socially unacceptable. This is the very same thing as any other oppression; and now just as before, your religion is no argument for or against what is truly and honestly good, what is truly and honestly love.
ReplyDeleteThis isn't about you or me or any debates we have- this is something bigger. This is facing the facts, this is facing what is ultimately right, what is ultimately human. LOVE SHOULD NOT AND CANNOT BE DEFINED BY ONE SINGLE SOURCE. NEITHER YOU NOR I HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SPEAK FOR ANOTHER OR TO TAKE HAPPINESS FROM THOSE WHO HAVE DONE US NO HARM.
Shelby H, 3rd hour
Shelby, thank you!!! It really is bigger than any of us and homosexuals have been around for ages, it's not like it's a new fad that will simply fade away. Gay and lesbian people have been around for ages and have been discriminated against the whole time. Many lived their lives hiding their true feelings because they were told it was wrong and a terrible thing to be and they turned out never being truly happy. To take away happiness from another human being based on your personal beliefs is not only selfish but infact ignorant. Denying love and happiness is what is immoral, not homosexuality!
DeleteIt's such a sad thing when people get hung up over the same issue time and time again. Honestly, it's emotionally exhausting. However, that is not the point of this comment. First, who is anyone to say that loving a person is wrong just because they happen to be the same gender? Love is what it is. As the old saying goes, "The heart wants what the heart wants." Second point, Joe brought up a very good point in the idea of separation between Church and State. Did we not just learn that John F. Kennedy being a Catholic (which was not all too popular) did not prevent him from being president? The belief that homosexuality is "immoral" by people should not influence making it illegal to marry someone the same sex. What if you were one being told 'no' by a church when you asked to be wed to the person you loved? How could you be able to do that to someone else if you are dead set against it like some people in this world? So, do I believe that everyone has a right to love? Yes. Do I think that anyone should try and stand in the way of that? No. Do I understand why it's such a big deal that absolutely everyone has to talk about it? No, but then again. The mind of a human is a mystery.
ReplyDelete~Morgan A-B, Hour 2
This whole debate breaks my heart.I find it so pathetic that you justify your hate for these people because of your so called religion. I would be ashamed of myself if I could happily deny them the rights to be with the person they love just because I thought it was wrong. I find this hate to be disgusting. I lose all respect for those who oppose same sex marriage because their is no way that their marriage will affect their lives. We're in America, people. Does anyone remember the whole "Separation of Church and State"? I know I do. I also remember "Do not judge, or you will too be judged"
ReplyDeleteMatthew 7:1
So if you're completely free from all sin, and God said it's okay for you to judge others for their "sins", why not just butt out of everyone's lives and let them live it their way.
McKayla B.
PR. 2
LAST COMMENT!
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